Should You Help Or Kill Thrumbo?

Posted by Fernande Dalal on Saturday, July 6, 2024

Baldur’s Gate 3 lets you side with either a mummy lord or his zombie thralls. Whether you choose Thrumbo or Mystic Carrion, here’s what to expect.

Summary

  • The necromancer Mystic Carrion promises a reward if the party returns his thrall, Thrumbo, to his mansion.
  • Thrumbo needs the party's help to escape Mystic Carrion and promises a magic item in return. They must destroy four hidden organs to defeat Mystic Carrion.
  • Which side the party takes affects their reward, but doesn't have much of an impact on the rest of the game.

Thrumbo, an oddly-named zombie, can be either friend or foe to the Baldur's Gate 3 party. In order to meet him, they'll first have to get through Wyrm's Rock Fortress and into the Lower City of Baldur's Gate. Once inside, they may spy the majesty of Philgrave's Mansion. Knock on the door (or sneak through the hole in the back), and Mystic Carrion will offer a cold greeting. He's an undead mummy, and he operates a fine little shop with some great gear for spellcasters. But more importantly, he needs the party to find his lost thrall. In return, he promises a magic item.

The thrall, Thrumbo himself, is a short distance away. Players may either happen upon him in the wardrobe of a pierside shack on the nearby beach, or explore the top floor of the mansion, pass a Perception check on the "Beggar's Portrait," and find a note detailing his exact location. Let him out and he begs for mercy. There, Thrumbo explains, he intends to load all of Mystic Carrion's thralls onto a boat and make a run for it. But of course, they won't get far without the party's help. If they so choose, they can help Thrumbo kill Mystic Carrion instead - but what's in it for them?

What Happens If You Help Thrumbo In Baldur's Gate 3?

No surprise here, but Mystic Carrion is apparently pretty cruel to his thralls. Thrumbo is looking for a way out, any way out, and he's willing to accept the party's help. He even promises to give them a magic item of his own. The problem is, Mystic Carrion is technically immortal. His organs are scattered about Baldur's Gate in canopic jars, and the party will have to destroy his heart in order to ensure he can't come back.

There are four organs hidden throughout the city. It's not necessary to destroy all four - just the heart is enough. However, for each one the party disposes of, Mystic Carrion loses some of his power, making the eventual confrontation with him that much easier. The first, the Jar of Mystic Carrion's Lungs, is located in the basement of the Mortuary building, near the Lower City cemetery. Two more are located in the Ancient Lair, which can be accessed by passing through the City Sewers into the Undercity Ruins. Mystic Carrion's liver will be inside a Gilded Chest, and his brain will be on a nearby table.

Also in the Ancient Lair is a book entitled Funerary Jar Form and Function, in which Mystic Carrion reveals that he's hidden his heart inside his most loyal thrall: Thrumbo. Return to Thrumbo and tell him the good news. He coughs up the heart, literally, and the party is free to destroy it. Just take care when doing so, as this one's rigged to explode. It'd be best to set it down in a secluded area, a short distance away from anyone else, and hit it with a spell or ranged attack. For a taste of poetic justice, it can even be used as a makeshift bomb in the fight against Mystic Carrion.

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With one or more canopic jars destroyed, it's time to finish Mystic Carrion off. It is possible to kill him before destroying his heart, but doing so just means he'll respawn on top of Thrumbo, likely killing him in the process. But with all his organs out of the equation, Mystic Carrion is a much easier foe. He still puts up a fight, summoning Ancient Servants in an attempt to overwhelm the party. However, depending on how many jars they've destroyed, his maximum HP may be as little as half of what it normally is.

Once Mystic Carrion is dead, Thrumbo thanks the party. He gives them the Crypt Lord Ring, which allows the wearer to cast create undead, allowing them to control three ghoul minions, once per long rest. The party can also loot some of Mystic Carrion's inventory from his dead body. Thrumbo takes over for him as merchant with whatever's left. Mystic Carrion also bears a Rusty Key, which they can use to unlock a Gilded Chest containing the Torch of Revocation. This club-type weapon would have been the reward for killing Thrumbo, so nothing is lost here. It's also necessary for completing the Baldur's Gate 3 sidequest "Free the Artist."

What Happens If You Kill Thrumbo In Baldur's Gate 3?

If the party decides to kill Thrumbo instead, this quest ends much more quickly. After all, one zombie makes an easier opponent than a necromancer lord and his undead bodyguards. Once Thrumbo is dead, the party can return his body to Mystic Carrion for their reward. They receive the Torch of Revocation, a club that does 1d4 fire and 1d4 necrotic damage. With a successful Persuasion of Intimidation check, they can convince Mystic Carrion to throw in a handful of gold, too. However, the party misses out on the Crypt Lord Ring, and will have to pay if they want any of the other items in Mystic Carrion's shop.

You Should Help Thrumbo In Baldur's Gate 3

Helping Thrumbo in Baldur's Gate 3 results in the best outcome for almost everybody involved. The loot is far better, with three pieces of very rare gear that would normally cost thousands of gold at Mystic Carrion's shop, in addition to Thrumbo's ring and the additional torch reward. The party will also receive a great deal more XP from beating the mummy lord and his minions than they would from fighting Thrumbo, even if Mystic Carrion is in a weakened form. Plus, it's just the right thing to do, freeing Thrumbo and his fellow thralls to live by their own means.

What's more, there don't appear to be any long-lasting consequences of killing Mystic Carrion, unlike some the more important decisions with major story implications in Baldur's Gate 3. Thrumbo takes over his shop with the same exact inventory. Mystic Carrion isn't tied to any other quests. He may be able to give the party a little advice on how to read the Necromancy of Thay in Baldur's Gate 3. However, this can be revealed before completing his quest, so there's really no need to keep him alive.

Helping Thrumbo gets the party more XP, a better loot haul, and the feeling they've done some good in the world. However, it might not be the right choice for every player character. Necromancy-focused characters who have little use for create undead, or merely sympathize with Mystic Carrion's need to control his thralls, might choose to side with the mummy lord instead. Either way, this is one decision in Baldur's Gate 3 that's fairly easy to make once players have all the details.

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